Well… This is my third post within a week. So isn’t it obvious that I don’t have much work to do? I am goddamn bored of fixing some two bugs per week. Fortunately, I have been in a nice writing form…
Yesterday evening there was this discussion on saints and celibacy. Two of my colleagues – Kamil and Jayanthi were debating. Kamil always has strong opinions on anything and would always present his points in a religious fervor. Jayanthi is a little naïve.
Jayanthi argued she could meet god in flesh and form!! (How insane!!) So I asked what’s god.
“God’s everything. Its inside me, you and these things…”
“Oh so all of us are gods! That’s why you are saying, you can meet god in flesh and form.” We had a good laugh.
Kamil - “The point is celibacy is absurd. Who do you call a living being? Biological definition of a living being is – 1) something that can take food & 2) something that can reproduce to create offspring. The saints don’t do the second one. So I don’t even consider them humans!! LOL. See our body produces sex hormones, which produce carnal desires in us. It’s a continuous cycle. Once in a month or so it’s produced. These desires are in-escapable. If some sage comes and tells he can control sexual desires and he advises me to control it, I would say its utter rubbish. He is not just wasting his time, but spoiling the other people. I say these people are useless to the human society.”
This guy always amazes me. He always has radically different views. I said “I don’t believe there is anything wrong in what they are doing. See you are saying science says hormones are produced blah blah but science has its limitations. In science, decisions are made based on what’s recorded as truth. It’s based purely on fact. Till Columbus discovered America no body knew it existed. I read a few days ago in newspaper – ‘A Japanese woman complained of repeated head ache. When her head was scanned they found the left part of the brain dint contain the grey matter at all. But science believes that left hemisphere of brain is responsible for understanding languages and associated with learning. Then how comes it that she has been normal till she was 32? He has led a perfectly normal life till then and secured good marks in her academics’”.
“May be. But my point is they are unable to control their carnal desires and they are advising us. There is this swami called premananda. U might have also heard of him few years ago. He did all sorts of things in his ashram and made news. It is this sort of people who we call saints”
“I don’t agree that everybody is like that. Its true they also find it difficult to control their desires. May be that’s the reason sages always went to Himalayas in search of solitude. They are also mere mortals. If you bring them back to this world, they would be influenced by us”
“So if they get influenced, why should they advise us? See boss this world has evolved because of people like us. It’s this complex because we have so many desires. If everyone went their way, we would still have been in Stone Age. If they come to me, I would advise them ‘what do you get by being alone sitting on rocks in chilling cold. Come have nice food, have sex and enjoy’”
“Well you are partly right I think. Buddha asked people to denounce desires and went seeking alms, did meditaion. If everyone had followed him, who would give him alms, would they eat leaves? But still somehow I can’t completely buy your argument. “
I had to end it since I needed to finish a small work before leaving at 6.30. Just wondering how my new company would be…
